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test, test, test, test, test test >> good afternoon and welcome to the city and school joint committee. i'm kim. i'm currently joined and school board members. supervisor mark farrell will be here shortly. we'd left lane like to recognize the staff for sf gov. tv >> please silence all phones
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and any documents as to say included into the record should be submitted to the city clerk. >> thank you please call item number one. >> it's to receive an duplicate grading on the traffic program. >> supervisor al loss and i sit on the transportation board of directors and i sit on the committee board and we've received an update on a 3 track process. i thought it's helpful to hear about this program and also to be able to weigh in and have
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input to this program. history i think there's been somewhat a separation on items such as those and this committee can share in ways we work together to improve our schools and neighborhood. so i'm hoping that that our committee can play a bigger roll in facilitating those conversations. we have someone here to give us an you tell date on the program >> thank you, madam chair thank you very much. as supervisor kim said we really welcome our feedback on this
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program. i'm going to go through it - what we're hoping to do around schools >> we talk about reducing speeds around schools so the goals we have in improving safety about pedestrian safety and traffic operations. this one is focused on reduction of speeds. our program is divided into 3 tracks and the track near schools and arterial streets. right now we've been going through a revision to look at how we spend our traffic coming
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funding we have a certain funding to spend on this traffic programs. we're trying to make sure that we're efficient. so i want to go through the 3 tracks. and >> do you have handouts so we can follow along with you? it's really to follow along orally >> i don't have my hand out. >> if you do have a paper copy i'd like to have that or you can e-mail to one of our clerks. >> i have it on a file right
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now. can someone please e-mail to one of the clerks >> so the arterial track has prior reduction an arrest material streets by using low-cost measures by changing the signal changing to go at fast streets. we would look at coordination. most of the pedestrian injuries took place on those arterial streets. we're loont about $2.1 million a year. i wrote the track books primarily in residential neighborhood. it has to look for projects that has the appealable to reduce the most speeds throughout the city.
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we have an explanation process where people can apply for traffic coming which are speed bumps in a low cost way. we prioritize those on volumes and we're actually, one of the changes we've done this before is increasing the waiting given to schools in the ranking. so if someone has a school on their streets we're try to include that in the next year. finally, the school track is something we're changing we'd like to have speed bumps or
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traffic islands that narrow the driven lanes. we'll work with the school coalition and we'll appreciate our feedback on that. so we can streamline our implementation and have walking audits and the school programs have their own process. but the idea here is to have a quicker win. so we're looking at a $150,000 per year. we'll be starting in three to four years depending upon a few things but primarily with the program we have a backlog of projects from the acknowledge
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tracks so we'reic at the implementing those. that's something we're working with you to find those locates. this funds is in violation for speed bumps and i'd like to say that could be around 1:00 district per year. our traffic i'd like to say cost about 20 to $25,000 and depending upon the prior position it could be a little different. some questions we've had about larger scale projects that could be done around the school arrest materials it could be a little more expensive. when you wanted to have signals
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all those things could add up from $500,000 and up >> you mentioned crossing guards is that part of this program? >> we have a sepa school
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districts. >> it would be really, really helpful if you could give examples of what's been enunciated the past so we could get an idea. >> for this particular program the new $150,000 we can find out through the application program what's been done near schools. >> i guess this question goes to more than our traffic program because most of our programs have been done through the city which is the safety school program. there are both individual infrastructure projects that the
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mta applies for generally every year we've been getting a couple of schools a year at a federal and state level and those go for hea heavyier infrastructures projects that you and we've developed a citywide database system to identify which schools have the highest rates of pedestrian collisions at the school and how many students are being affected from those projects. arthritis a non-infrastructure project in the city and outreach encouraging children to walking braert to school.
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there are fourteen schools in this program and there's another project coming up to expand it to many more schools it's done in the same way. how many students live close to the schools that are not walking. so we re-evaluate where all our crossings gardeners are and we have traffic operations if there's a specific issue that isn't investigated we investigate it may be a crossing are stop sign that needs to be looked. >> i did ask for not just the school criteria for the funding but the counter list that
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receives funding through any of that. so it would be great to have gotten that information today. you know, whose walking to our schools. who has the greatest amount of children walking to school. we had also asked for the potential criteria for schools that operate near the arrest materials likelogically the speedometer - speed limit to fourteen miles per hour because it's right by the freeway and the tenderloin is an active corridor. i was hoping for that i'm
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surprised at the limited information we're getting >> i can address that and i'm sorry. i work with the m pa so we had had some further discussions with our office to try to clarify because the request came after this presentation and really around the traffic coming program. this school track is a new funding source so there's no list of schools that's listed through this program >> we'd be more than happy to have that group back but that group would be probably one of the coalitions and those are lead by the department of health. so the coalition has a
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representation from the school district and enforcement etc., and they sort of maintain that database and they needing feed us a list of the projects that get funded and it's a separate funding source. i think we could work with that group to come back with a more robust presentation on that piece of that. but the schools that get funded most of the matches of those grants come through this track currently and each of those applications comes through - through the san francisco county transportation board so it comes through their advisory programs and to the full board as well. so that's how the schools go
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through their motions in terms of full funding. i did want to clarify the reason why we can or can't lower the speeds near schools we have to do it on roads that have a certain amount of lanes and we have to do an analysis. and we put signs up and, of course, they're just signs so another little piece of >> if i could just speak to that. i understand what the limitations are. but my request in the hearing specifically stated we can't
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implement the 15 speed limit mile-per-hour. where most of the students that go to tenderloin do walk to school so i'm very concerned about the safety of our parents and our kids that attend those school areas because cars do move very, very quibble what else can we do? for there are two others places where we could have that conversation even in this track there's a material combing track an arrest material street which is the ones you're referring. and we need - we recognize the need to do more other than
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putting up 15 mile-per-hour signs. we could widen sidewalks but it could be multiply million dollars projects. but we have a spell it limit program either through signal timing to slow down traffic in a way that's a way to reduce the fast pass but this might be another project that this group would hear about. we're going to roll out the pilot and see if we can fund
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some other ways to slow down traffic and what i was hoping for was some of those concepts and some estimated cost. i get the sidewalk widening is very expensive by even understanding signal timing and what the costs are. and also the university to get the 15 mile-per-hour school zone i was looking for the history of the work we've done and i was hoping we could then get feedback on this new funding source on the school track. it's a larger information sharing i was hoping for
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>> i'm sorry we didn't get that cleared up before this. and that's all the information we have. for example what we do with marshall school zone we can get a sense of what's been done. >> if we can - i think commissioner - if you can cancel yours and then supervisor. >> i want to ask the mta rep. i was curious i'm a little unclear about the difference brian electronic a safe route school and a - the new funding that hasn't come yet but - so
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and then my soak question is if a school committee is concerned about pedestrian safety and for whatever reason how do they go about getting themselves on the list to improve pedestrian safety? good question. when we use the term save riots to school that's about as much of the fund sources. save route to school is a state, local and federal funding stream for it's referred to a specific grant source. that comes to us in a variety number of ways are i know the state is a reviewing their state funding but i don't know we are
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putting in right now a few applications for safe routes to school as part of the grant. it refers to sort of a movement loovp almost like complete streets. it's the same type of thing a group of folks got together and tried to focus the neighborhoods about the safe routes to school there are a national partnership. it was born here in a local county. we have ties and as a local level we have a coalition which
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is the citywide group of folks who talk about those issues and where to direct the funding and where to direct our walking audit. and this is to kim's questions. how do those projects get recognized. people from the county and engineers and people from the school district and we take a walk. we try to come up with a list of improvements from each school where we got out and do those walking audits. some of them happen because of requests, many of them happen because they're part of a grant. and it includes the walking audit.
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so that was your question about how we - >> right so windbreaker the coalition is probably the best way and we need the representation from a group of schools which or are not on the list and how to bring the schools into the list. and the traffic combing source so the tax dollars are divided up there's a bicycling bicycle one and a pedestrian one and within the combing track it's a pie divided into thirds.
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and the last one is for schools. historical that money has been used to match the safe to school grants. now we're going to still work on the grants we're going to match the grants on another sources so that freeze up the sources to use it on traffic combing around schools but the kinds of things we're interested in are should we take that 1 hundred and 50 thousand every year and spread it out over the city. should we hold it on two years and have a larger pot or are we going to might be do half the city one year and try to have
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that money go further to invest in more significant projects around the schools particularly the ones near or materials there's a bicycle category, there's a maintenance category and 0 o all those places are needed to be funded around schools. i think we very specific information we could share about the historic improvements at the tenderloin school if you're interested in that by the way, illustration. it's something that maybe the committee is interested in?
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>> just looking at some experience in my district. we have many schools, of course, just like balboa high school on ocean avenue we had >> number of the requests from james denying man and for a stop sign and it just kept getting reject rejected. and both were effected by traffic on ocean avenue that in our office we were able to get a stop sign there. i think for a lot of the schools we don't know how to assess the program and it's - if you could
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walk us through that process it will be helpful for the public who may be watching otherwise we're all - we could leave here without adequate information >> sure first, the think the grants that we're talking about the infrastructure improvements. so i'm going to give it a shot and i'm going to let ellen